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	<title>Comments on: A better fuse block</title>
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		<title>By: Bob LaJeunesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob LaJeunesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing I learned while working as an EE at one of the big three is that the fuse is there to protect the wire, not the load. Yes, NOT the load. The fuse has to survive the load, but more importantly the wire must survive the fuse. So the fuse&#039;s time*current rating must be well below the time*current rated fusing of the wire to be protected. For help there are standardized charts of copper wire fusing currents and safe operating currents. Such an &quot;ampacity&quot; table is at http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm which shows 24AWG in a cable should be limited to 0.577A. At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge the table shows 24AWG copper wire will melt (fuse) at 29A or so. Somewhere between those numbers the insulation will surely give up its magic smoke, and that&#039;s the real current limit the fuse must be well below.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I learned while working as an EE at one of the big three is that the fuse is there to protect the wire, not the load. Yes, NOT the load. The fuse has to survive the load, but more importantly the wire must survive the fuse. So the fuse&#8217;s time*current rating must be well below the time*current rated fusing of the wire to be protected. For help there are standardized charts of copper wire fusing currents and safe operating currents. Such an &#8220;ampacity&#8221; table is at <a href="http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm</a> which shows 24AWG in a cable should be limited to 0.577A. At <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge</a> the table shows 24AWG copper wire will melt (fuse) at 29A or so. Somewhere between those numbers the insulation will surely give up its magic smoke, and that&#8217;s the real current limit the fuse must be well below.</p>
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		<title>By: nbezanson</title>
		<link>http://www.i3detroit.com/a-better-fuse-block/comment-page-1/#comment-7572</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point, Bob! Yes, the whole mess is running at 12V, and there are regular fuses upstream in the battery bank. This is designed so the polyfuses trip first in case of minor mishaps, but if something catastrophic happens to the supply wiring, the regular fuses should catch it.

As for moderate currents: Since the whole box is getting wired with 22AWG, I went one gauge smaller and grabbed some 24AWG for testing. Dead-shorted the fuse block with it. On the 2.5A position, I saw a peak of 18A for just an instant before the polyfuse tripped, and the wire got noticeably hot during that instant. On the 900mA position, it peaked around 8A with no detectable heat in the wire.

I didn&#039;t jot down the &quot;holding current&quot; that the polyfuse lets through to keep itself heated and tripped, but it&#039;s pretty low, certainly not a danger. Something to be aware of, though, for sure! Think of them as PTC resistors, rather than fuses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Bob! Yes, the whole mess is running at 12V, and there are regular fuses upstream in the battery bank. This is designed so the polyfuses trip first in case of minor mishaps, but if something catastrophic happens to the supply wiring, the regular fuses should catch it.</p>
<p>As for moderate currents: Since the whole box is getting wired with 22AWG, I went one gauge smaller and grabbed some 24AWG for testing. Dead-shorted the fuse block with it. On the 2.5A position, I saw a peak of 18A for just an instant before the polyfuse tripped, and the wire got noticeably hot during that instant. On the 900mA position, it peaked around 8A with no detectable heat in the wire.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t jot down the &#8220;holding current&#8221; that the polyfuse lets through to keep itself heated and tripped, but it&#8217;s pretty low, certainly not a danger. Something to be aware of, though, for sure! Think of them as PTC resistors, rather than fuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob LaJeunesse</title>
		<link>http://www.i3detroit.com/a-better-fuse-block/comment-page-1/#comment-7570</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob LaJeunesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just an added caution. The scheme here works great for low voltages and moderate currents, but for other uses be careful. Polyfuses can have a relatively low maximum voltage, and because the thermal mass is higher than the small wire in a glass fuse they can take a lot longer before tripping. But for this use, they rock!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an added caution. The scheme here works great for low voltages and moderate currents, but for other uses be careful. Polyfuses can have a relatively low maximum voltage, and because the thermal mass is higher than the small wire in a glass fuse they can take a lot longer before tripping. But for this use, they rock!</p>
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